Hey everybody, I am so happy to hear that cruising (fingers crossed) will start in mid-July. But does anybody else have an issue with giving private information of a medical nature to a third party to exercise your rights to freedom of movement? I feel that the Gov't is trying to get around a vaccine passport by co-erceing big business to do it for them.
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Of all the things folks with time and dough can do on this planet, cruising has to be up near the top. Some folks around me have NEVER cruised...mostly because they can't afford it...some have, once in a GREAT while....I'm sure they think we're filthy rich, and certifiable. If someone wants to see proof we've been vaccinated, fine, even though its easy enough to dummy up a card. (That "honor system" is a joke asa it came out of their mouths..) But I digress....
Yeh...YOU might never get it, or never even know you have it...or worse, infect someone who DIES from it...but YOU won't know would you? Course there's no way to track it with anything close to accuracy, but it begs the question of just how many people out of the half-million plus who died, and those who suffer long lasting effects had your attitude.....one wonders what their surviving families would say about Mom or Dad who died from it because they REFUSED to be told what to do..and are now pushing up daisies.
But it really doesn't matter, because there are CLEARLY way more people who will NEVER get the shots, for whatever reason, than those who elected to get the jab.
Actually they are if the person wants to cruise. Your argument may be, well you don't have to cruise then! Well neither does anyone else. Making something a mandate to do something is forcing them to do it if they want to partake in that activity. I respect both sides. I can see why people get the vaccine and why people don't. The rub of it is when activities like cruising may mandate a vaccine to go cruising. I do think in a sense that is forcing someone to get the vaccine. Just my two copper.
Respectfully, nobody is forcing you to take anything.
Respectfully, nobody is forcing you to take anything.
I have a BIG ISSUE with being forced to take a "vaccination" for an illness that I have almost a 100% chance of recovering from. I never have had the flu vaccine, and I don't need this experimental vaccine, either. There are too many unknowns about long term effects as well as serious adverse reactions in otherwise perfectly healthy people.
The whole reason I got the Vaccine, was to be able to cruise, so.....They can ask for my papers all they like, as long as I can get on a ship.
No issues here. It is what it is.
For me it isn't a problem to show someone with a legitimate need my card.
Rather, it's the idea of a centralized computer database that spits out a unique qr code before I can do normal activities or can be used to track my everyday movements.
Gov Cuomo of New York has proposed that this code be required to get on the subway, go to a restaurant or attend a Ball game.
Also who would manage the database? Tencent holdings has volunteered. WHO likes that idea. So, Tencent is a Chinese company. Do you feel comfortable giving this information to the People's Republic of China? I don't!
Thanks to their hacking into a Government Security Clearance database, they already have all my information
I am willing to show proof of vaccination
And how is this any different than the gov't wanting things like...drivers licenses, passports and a host of other things that directly affect your "freedom of movement"....besides, wonder just how many people actually read the fine print on things like the "privacy notices" tacked onto virtually every website you may want to log into and do biz with.....yes, a small part of me kind of resents it....but at this point, I just don't care.....I'm more concerned with the mechanics of boarding...it might take triple the time given the new procedures....whatever they are....and the cruise terminals are already zoos....even for folks who know what they're doing......at least they used to.....
For me it isn't a problem to show someone with a legitimate need my card.
Rather, it's the idea of a centralized computer database that spits out a unique qr code before I can do normal activities or can be used to track my everyday movements.
Gov Cuomo of New York has proposed that this code be required to get on the subway, go to a restaurant or attend a Ball game.
Also who would manage the database? Tencent holdings has volunteered. WHO likes that idea. So, Tencent is a Chinese company. Do you feel comfortable giving this information to the People's Republic of China? I don't!