Poor Design-great crew-great ports-won't sail this class ship again

Sun Princess Cruise Review to Transatlantic

Cruises: 7+ cruises
Reviews: 2
Helpful Votes: 30

Overall rating:

4 out of 5
Sun Princess

25 Night Iberian Grand Adventure (Barcelona To Ft. Lauderdale)

Sail date: September 14, 2024

Ship: Sun Princess

Cabin number: 05201

Traveled as: Couple

Reviewed: 2 months ago

Review summary

Multiple bad design flaws Theaters on most ships with 2-3 thousand passengers have nice 2 story venues with ample seating - on Sun Princess with 4,000 plus passengers it is mostly a much smaller 1 level Arena with possibly 1000 max - we found out quickly one has to arrive 30-45 minutes early to get a seat-comfortable seats and great acoustics- but not acceptable The Dome on deck 17 venue is glass and 95% enclosed and seats maybe 250- geared to acrobatic acts and closed more than open for rehearsals and other events with poor acoustics - visually a wow but impractical to a 4000 plus passenger ship No bar / sports bar/ gastropub with tvs for watching sporting events- most ships at minimum have a casino bar with 2-3 tvs, or a Gastropub such as on Celebrity ships with many tvs and comfortable seating - NO casino bar- Carnival owner owns an NBA team with his cruise guests nowhere to watch with fellow fans ; in room TV does not move out from wall on a swivel stand to any angle in deluxe balcony class room; instead of 24 hr ESPN or Sky Sports very weak Sport24 with usually 1 sport event a day and Sport24 Extra which usually has nothing on; satellite tv reception was very spotty even in calm conditions and not far from coasts; internet speed stable- had passable download speed but very slow upload speed- hardly high speed; the motion sensor lights on both sides of bed and under counter in bathroom are nice additions for nighttime; additional electric outlets also nice; closets and shelving well organized The ship has a notable lack of public rooms / entertainment or quiet areas prevalent on older smaller seats- noise is constant- everything is focused on the 3 story Piazza so guests have to put up with game shows and contests that are held in other venues on most ships, no library or quiet areas, future cruise and internet Cafe areas all not private and open to noisy Piazza noise, no smaller theater such as on Enchanted or Discovery, no protected from wind and quiet adult pool area and bar such as on Enchanted or Discovery- instead at front of ship forward of Dome ( Sea View Terrace) a mostly under glass area ( where the glass are not solid but have small gaps allowing guests and seating to get wet wherever it rains- not a good idea for tropical environments like rhe Caribbean where ship will spend the winter- again looks good but not functional) and creating a wind tunnel environment with a bar that closes at 6- so unlike other ships that have a high deck fully enclosed entertainment area for evening and relaxing quiet area with a bar this ship lacks this so it likely won't go to Alaska, Nordic areas or Antarctica as guests will freeze- bottom line more shops, more specialty restaurants and suites and less space for passenger areas; no separate function room/ bar for Captain’s Circle members; they use a Landing area on Deck 4 used for embarkation and disembarkation for Spanish language classes and also crew meetings outside main passenger elevators The word "bars" is overused on Sun Princess- there are several service bars with walk up only service and no bar stools; the Good Spirits bar which is great full service bar on Enchanted and Discovery off of Piazza-on Sun Princess it is tucked in a side enclosed room near bathrooms with no bar stools and glass door and closed most of day; the Wheelhouse which is a fun lively bar on other ships has a Covid type limited seating number of stools again limiting fun interaction with other like minded guests- the Wake View bar on Deck 8 outside is about the only are this is possible and thus very popular; Bellini's bar on Deck 7, and Crooners bar on 8, are the closest real bars but both, particularly Bellinis, suffer from the constant din from the Piazza; the Cascades Bar on Deck 17 is nice but is a fulcrum for wind tunnels from a combination of automatic exterior doors on Deck, into corridor with non automatic glass doors where one is usually propped open, and resulting wind tunnel from open entry in to Dome one way and back to elevators the opposite way The new O’Malley’s Irish Pub is fun and music was great, aided by the foresight to enclose the room by closed doors shutting out the noise of Princess Live, the busy hallway, and Piazza- the small surcharge for a light menu well worth it as kitchen is adjacent The Cabana Deck section on 9 looks very nice from above with large semi private extended patio and a hot tub for that area only - but there is not a covered area for shade Ship sailing very smooth with great stabilizers; the LNG fuel eliminates the oily smell from funnel to back of ship that exists on old ships Food in the buffet (The Eatery ) was very good and consistent; the breads though many times were stale or hard and pastries/ desserts with very little taste- something Celebrityexcels at with their bread stations; throughout the ship Princess upgraded the French fries to excellent quality; Americana Diner dining room on Deck 8 has nice comfort food- the lighting, particularly in center, is way too bright and if on dimmers they are never used; Alfredo’s Pizza, an upcharge for specialty pizzas of $12.95 even with Premier or Plus package, is a total waste of money- the free pizza on decks 9 and 17 is as good or better; where Princess really hit the mark are the burger-hot dog- Tacos- pizza- venues outside the Eatery on Deck 9 and by pool on Deck 17- orders are taken individually and cooked to order- far superior to Celebrity’s one size fits all where burgers are cooked often a half hour ago in similar venues Staff as always are excellent Guest services, a large hotel reception type area on most ships and hotels is now a small area on Deck 6 where on this ship a small area with 4 tablet manned stations, we went there 3 times for Medallion replacement as they stopped working A few areas of corridors had a garbage or sewer smell - deck 8 by expensive shops, deck 9 near angled corridor outside future cruises , bathroom very small but good shower It appears they set unrealistic ship construction completion date - numerous things did not work- door in Dome, one of controls in hot tub aft deck 8, repairs to stairs around main pool on 17, mass reorganizing of restaurant locations after Atlantic crossing, removal in Southampton on Deck 19 of climbing walls, etc, but bottom line is poor design by naval architect, almost without exception the frequent cruisers we spoke to voiced that they won't sail again on this class of ship

Embarkation

5 out of 5

Ship experiences

Food and Dining

4 out of 5
The Eatery( buffet) food was very good; main dining ok, Americana very good, outside deck 9 and 17 light fare excellent( cooked to order); Crown Grill excellent, breads/cookies/pastries ok at best-lacking flavor, O'Malley's food very good and entertainment, Sirens Call and Kevin Brando were great, Alfredo's a waste of money-no charge pizza on 9 and 17 better

Onboard Activities

3 out of 5
the hot tubs were generally ok; at rear of ship portside hot tub on deck 8 had a broken valve-for a ship 6 months old there were several non functioning doors, switches, etc; the never opened rock climbing features on top of ship were removed by crane in Southampton; Liar's Club fun but venues way to small

Entertainment

1 out of 5
the theater size (Arena) and secondary theater(Dome) -their size for 4,000 passenger ship is a joke-people had to line up hours before to get in; the musicians on the ship were great-Sirens Call, Kevin Brando,Cola duo, house band, etc; if you are a frequent Princess cruiser and love Crooners you will be sorely disappointed -on older ships you get great piano in the evenings without competing music from the Piazza 6 out of 7 nights-not happening on Sun Princess-the lack of alternative entertainment spaces have the very loud Piazza noise dominate the ship- out of 25( 27 due to Hurricane Milton) days the piano players in Crooners were only occasionally and even then as early as 3 pm up to 6; the only venue where you can really hear the music without competing noise is in O'Malley's as they have this marvelous invention, 2 doors, to keep noise out ; if you are looking for the sports bar or casino bar to watch your favorite teams- you are out of luck- they don't exist- you have to watch in your room; Adam Barry, Gary Lovini, and Jay McGee in the theater were excellent

Children's Programs

no kids

Service and Staff

5 out of 5
the crew make the cruise enjoyable despite the many design flaws

Ship Quality

1 out of 5
design horrible except for new algorithm elevators ( glass elevators aft that have no a/c in elevator shaft- if they are facing the sun it is like an oven); ship clean but in public bathrooms they have combo water/soap faucets that are hard to figure out instead of simple ones along with an in sink hand dryer that only blows cold air so everyone still uses paper towels- bad design - several signs up the whole cruise ( i.e. door outside from Dome) that says" we're on it" meaning repairs in progress; drilling on stairways on deck 17 in pool area- they rushed completion of ship obviously; the LNG fuel eliminates oily funnel smoke and this is a big plus; ship very smooth even at full power ( 22 knots)

Cabin / Stateroom

4 out of 5
cabin comfortable and storage design very good; tv does not swing out in balcony cabin so only viewable when in bed; bathroom very small doors almost hit each other- good luck to big people as they won't fit

Ship tip

sail on any older design Princess ships and you will enjoy a lot more

Ports of call

Barcelona, Spain

5 out of 5
beautiful city-highly recommend

Palma De Mallorca, Balearic Islands

5 out of 5
gorgeous island port-very relaxing

Cartagena, Spain

5 out of 5
lovely city-the Roman theater is a must see

Cadiz (Seville), Spain

5 out of 5
pleasantly surprised - Cadiz is surrounded by water and a very nice city

Southampton (London), England

3 out of 5
on / off port- West Quay mall best way to spend your day

Portland (Weymouth), England, UK

5 out of 5
Portland gateway to Weymouth - gorgeous seaside beach town which is a big summer destination in Dorset

Vigo, Spain

5 out of 5
definitely different than the south of Spain- really enjoyable city with lots of history, nice restaurants, cafes, shopping

Funchal, Madeira

5 out of 5
a favorite for sure-take the gondola ride to the top and spend hours at Monte Palace gardens and enjoy

Santa Cruz De Tenerife, Canary Islands

4 out of 5
a nice port to walk around and relax

Ft. Lauderdale (Port Everglades), Florida Did not visit port

live there

Disembarkation

5 out of 5
walked off at 6:45

Traveler Photos

Dome theater Sea View terrace Monte Palace gardens Monte Palace gardens
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6 Comments

Cruisers4Lyfe     2 months ago

Thanks for sharing

4everdanz     2 months ago

We also travelled across from Southampton to FLL. Very good detailed report. Totally agreed with all you said.

javawoody     2 months ago

Appreciate the detailed feedback

cruising2004     2 months ago

Thank you for your detailed review.

HeavySeas     2 months ago

Thanks for sharing your cruise experience

Gwbigdog     2 months ago

Thanks for sharing your cruise with us

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