MrChocoholic
Contributor Level: Captain

What to do about jumpers?

Two people in three weeks died going overboard from cruise ships, one on Carnival, one on NCL. Everyone knows that occasionally people, crew and passengers alike, fall or jump from a ship, but it seems to have become more frequent. My own experience aboard ships has shown that every square inch of public space on the average cruise ship is covered by a video camera. Response time of course can vary considerably from when someone jumps/falls until the "man overboard" notification reaches the bridge, and when rescue operations commence. Often, rescue operations or the cruise line's response to these situations cause a change in itinerary or other aspect of the cruise. Do YOU think there is anything more the cruise lines can do to make it more difficult, or prevent people from going overboard? Should there be some new protocol, or safety measures, or response procedure in order to save lives?

Tags: rescue jump suicide

30 Answers

Ewoodspark
Contributor Level: Captain

It is of course very sad when anybody has to go to these levels especially when it involves 100's of innocent people. It is very difficult for the cruise lines to actually prevent this, just as it is virtually impossible to stop somebody jumping off Beachy Head if their mind is totally disturbed. As I say, very very sad

Kennicott
Contributor Level: Captain

 

Hate to be brutally honest, but my answer is "nope".

Society seems to freak out at the likes of a Dr Jack Kevorkian trying to find solutions in helping others "Rest in Peace" and avoid sometimes years of anguish, pain, suffering and family heartache awaiting the end. So we reap what we sow and allow good people on their own to struggle to find a way out of life, unfortunately making it unpleasant for the rest of us sometimes. Actually, going over the rail on a ship is a lot less traumatic than many other ways to end it that I see take place all the time. 

Freezing is probably best. With the indigenous first nations nomadic people when the time came and the elders couldn't keep up with the column, instead of endangering the welfare and existence of their people, the oldster would simply move aside the trail, take a snooze and join the after life.    

 

glomarrone
Contributor Level: Admiral

I don't think that there is too much more that cruiselines can do.  They can't barb wire the railings or balconies.  

noname111
Contributor Level: Captain

I do not think the cruise lines can or should do more in these situations. There is little to do when someone is bent on hurting him/herself. It's sad that they have to do so in such a way but the lines can't control for every variation of passenger protection. Holding the lines civilly or criminally responsible is ludicrous in cases where an individual kills him/her self.

JusMe
Moderator
Contributor Level: Captain

I heard of the RCI and NCL,  but have not heard of the Carnival jumper.   The news has stated that the RCI and NCL were jumpers,  not slip and fall or helped over the railing.  

 

If somebody has mind made up to do this,  they will find a way to do so.  I do not think the industry can do much more then they do about it.   What can they do,  put a fence or netting over all the balconies and outdoor areas of the ship wired to an alarm if it is cut?

 

It is sad that people get to this point of life that they do not care of the impact on others. It is not uncommon for a death on a cruise ship.   All ships have morgue storage.

 

My thoughts go out to the family and friends of the departed,  the crew and passengers that were impacted on the ships.

BDRebel
Contributor Level: Captain

I'm sure that there is a lot the shop could do, but nothing realistic without greatly impacting all the other passengers.

Suicide will happen, whether it is jumping overboard, climbing the mast and jumping off, cutting oneself, poison, drugs OD, or any other countless methods.

cruznjan
Contributor Level: Staff Captain

I don't see what more the cruise lines can do.

MrChocoholic
Contributor Level: Captain

Those who go overboard are also daredevils jumping from a moored ship (Carnival in the Turks/Caicos) and railing-sitters who lose their balance. Preventable? 

 

Kennicott
Contributor Level: Captain

 

Don't forget about the drunks.

 

JusMe
Moderator
Contributor Level: Captain

Kennicott........... thanks for remembering me  Big Smile

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