FACTS..

https://www.carnival.com/legal/covid-19-legal-notices

By the time I finish this, my fingers will hurt...but I can see where the other thread is going...People see what they want to see...and interpret it accordingly. I don't really expect folks to read the above start to finish, but it explains CCL's requirements, at least until 10/31.

First, and just to clear the air, I think this new testing requirement sucks. I think its insulting to the folks who did whatever they had to do to get the shots in the first place. We also have five booked, but we're going in NOV...if it well and truly sucks, we'll cancel FEB...I posted that already...to those who think that matters to ANY cruise line, think again...

Second...the antigen test IS the so-called rapid test, with results in 15min...the BINEX test is the s/a OTC test you can buy and do yourself. I wouldn't want them to rely on it, or tell me to get it...thats even more insulting than having to get a test where at least the results are reliable. If anyone insists, I'll scrounge up a link, say from the CDC, explaining it all. I've seen it...But then clearly there are folks who don't believe anything THEY say either...

Third, reviewing the above link, CCL even uses a typical SATURDAY departure as an example. You MUST have the results of a test taken either WED or THUR or FRI IN HAND when you board. There are claims that YES, its perfectly fine to require that, and NO its unreasonable. Just so happens our cruise leaves on a SAT after Thanksgiving. Our world is closed on TDAY, and lots of places are closed the FRI after. The day before a cruise is travel day for many folks trying to cruise. There was NO WAY we were heading to the port without those pieces of paper..So yes, it became an exercise in "misinformation"...and the more places I called the worse it got.

Fourth...you can eyeball as many drug chains or local walk-in clinics as you like. MOST (but not all) limit the testing to "certain persons"...and then they define it so they can tell YOU what kind of test you "qualify for. Merely needing a test for travel or employment (and thats mentioned all over) means you get the test that "may" take up to five days. So the test you took on MON or TUES won't count. Not to mention MANY (but not all) require a "referral"....do I really need to explain that???

Fifth if i was still working (perish the thought) and had the kind of job where getting tested "regularly" was a requirement, either my employer would do it on site, or make arrangements with a local provider to do the testing. I suppose if I was working for a tiny mom n pop place, they could tell me to go do it, or else...AND probably have to pay for it myself.

Sixth...after speaking to a local place and realizing that WED prior to the cruise was good, I had a very pleasant visit with the mgr. And i told her the truth...we're going on as cruise...she thought I was nutz, but was too polite to say so..Yes, if you have insurance, including Medicare, they'll bill it. If you dont, they get paid anyway...Apparently SAM pays for these tests regardless, unless the place YOU PICKED (and didn't ask) insists on $$ upfront. She said they have done 100's of both kinds of tests, and have no facility to take $$ or even CC's there anyway. And she said many people have come in to get tested, no ins whatsover, and they always get paid....Which kind of begs the question of just how many tests your ins co (or even Medicare) is willing to pay for..given that the $$ comes from a different source in our Govt...whatever it is. Being cynical, and saving it for last, I called the County Health Dept...yknow the place that handles druggies and such (I thought)...I didn't even know where it was! Turns out is was 10 minutes from the walk in clinic where we'll be tested. Woman there validated and verified everything I had learned in the previous 2 blankety-blank hours I spent doing all this.

Last (thank God) There is no doubt in my mind that alot of people will be showing up under the impression they're just fine. Not everyone has the time or inclination to do what I did. Thats how we managed to get the shots in the first place when it was total chaos and waiting lists. I think the zoo at the pier will get considerably worse. Other folks will read and post "stuff" with no basis in fact. I know what I know, and yes it sucks, and i resent it...but do it, or stay home... People are putting thousands of dollars (not to mention their health) at risk. But thats just fine, unless of course the fickle finger of fate touches you...THEN folks wish they got the damn shot!!!!

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Check the policy of the specific cruise line. They are clearly spelled out on most cruise line web sites. In many cases a positive test for one person means the entire party is turned away

Right now I'm up to my azz in alligators around here..100+ temps aren't conducive to outside chores..I won't guess...other than I'd bet there IS a policy, and I'd bet it has something to do with getting travel insurance. I would STRONGLY suggest you call the line involved and ask...even if you have to wait on the phone..be stubborn, and patient..make sure you get some one who sounds like they know what they're talking about...easier said than done sometimes...AND, if it was me, I'd ask where that "policy" is exactly on their website...and print it.............before it changes.....

AND...fwiw, post your answer...because if you're asking, I bet lots of other folks are too...its just possible somebody in here can find it...right now I'm going to work up a sweat....playing outside can do that heheheh

This may be a dumb question but here goes.. Do you know what happens if someone does test positive with the rapid test right before the cruise? I assume the person who tested positive can't cruise. What about the person who was going with them if they tested negative? What if they can't go because of the positive test? Does that mean they get fully refunded by the cruise line? I haven't heard anything regarding refund policies if someone tests positive.

More & more likely I am going to scrap the idea of an end of Nov. cruise. (A shame really- I wanted to see how Carnival chef's would have done with a traditional Thanksgiving day dinner).

As of right now our March 22' cruise on the Magic is next up, and I think that may be the soonest we're going. What a mess.

BTW: I'm not wholly convinced future bookings are as rosy as the lines are leading us to believe. I'm tracking nine different sailings from CCL and RCL from early Nov through Dec. All 9 have plenty of cabins still available, and they have since before Delta became a thing. I wouldn't even have to upgrade to any higher categories than what I've been looking at.

Hmm... reading this just makes be glad my cruise with Regent (IF I choose to keep the booking) isn't until next August. By that time things should be sorted out.

Thanx! made an error tho, not that it matters...If we cancel FEB..next one would be APR...that could be "at risk" too....

I enjoyed the read - I look forward to more ! Happy

Thats why were going in NOV, come hell or high water...and find out ourselves just how ugly this can be...if it is, we cancel FEB22, because the one after that is OCT22..gives them a year + to straighten this out and make it more palatable to cruise...because if they don't, and soon, there may not be a cruise industry left....

Fortunately our upcoming is end of January so we are hoping that all of the bugs and kinks get knocked out by then and things are a lot smoother.

Thanks LAZYBOY, and all the others for the compliments. Kinda makes the effort worthwhile. Yes there are not only different state "rules" for this testing (I don't know what else to call them), but there is another dynamic here as well.

The national chains have websites written and are reviewed for text and accuracy because they're SUPPOSED to apply to thousands of stores nationwide. Its easy enough to miss the "fine print" and the conditions on any of them. What happens when you call or walk into one can be vastly different. One girl who sounded like she was 12 years old on the phone at one big chain...well the short version is I couldn't get to first base..1-5 days and downhill from there...Talking to another woman at another big chain said they'd do an antigen test if they weren't busy, but usually they do "the other". As I said, elsewhere, unless you're sick, you need a referral and so on and so forth..The walk-in clinics were virtually the same...with the exception of the HEALTH DEPT and one small local place I almost overlooked.

WHY all the differences? I hesitated to post what is merely a flat out cynical guess, but here goes. MONEY! The big chains aren't here to "help you". They're publicly traded and from one quarter to the next they show profits or heads roll...The smaller walk in clinics are almost the same way. The local clinic we're going to is the smallest one in the bunch, located in an out of the way place, probably visited only by locals, and the people there were incredibly pleasant and helpful. Thats why i spent some time there. The HEALTH DEPT ran a very close second. The difference probably was me, because I have a natural suspicion of anything even vaguely gov't related. What do they have in common? Even though one is private and the other public, neither has any skin in the game. Both of them were genuinely willing to actually help...and it wasn't like they were doing me any particular favors either.

Clearly, not only are there differences in State procedures, theres also vast differences depending on who you talk to on the day you make your appointment and so on. (BTW, the local place said they're usually not that busy, so just show up early,...we'll have coffee) Hows that?

I guess the real bottom line is you have to do your homework. If it wasn't for that "3 day rule", I guess i wouldn't have gone thru any off this...Didn't want to, resented it, but glad I did. I used to worry about travel delays getting to the pier. Nope, kid stuff.....THIS is a big hoop to jump thru. I hope its worth it too. COASTERKING speaks for me and I believe ALOT of other folks...5 booked cruises for me too...yeh, thats alot of dough to spend to be harassed and put upon. Not that the cruise lines care..GL2U all.....and thanks again for the compliments....

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