Valley of Decision for Jan Cruise

We cruise on the 15th and the CDC announcement has me -of course- asking questions.

The threshold for CDC investigation is 0.1% positivity on a ship, which is nothing in my opinion. I'd be more interested in understanding the ceiling! In other words, when does a ship go from yellow to red? And are we close to that on any particular ship? Unfortunately, they're not going to tell us that or share the actual number of positive cases on any given ship.

So, I guess my question is for anyone who has returned in the last week or so..... Exactly how high is the positivity on the ships? Is it affecting the onboard experience? Is everyone coming home with it?

Can someone be real with me? I DO NOT want to cancel, but I also don't want to have a terrible vacation.

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Sorry, my comment disappeared. Thanks for sharing this. Not sure what would have happened without the parents being there. Glad the young lady is improving.

I'm not that gracious...I don't know how this woman didn't kill somebody over this...and I wouldn't blame her one bit...that has to be right at the top of my personal list of cruise horror reduces all the others I have heard or seen to mere inconveniences...What will NCL et al do??? my money says NOTHING, it didn't happen.. My fear isn't that "someone" will get COVID onboard...thats almost a fear is that even a so-called "mild" case will case a massively poor, ineffectual reaction...suppose it happens to YOUR wife, kids, or YOU??? Our next is on Breakaway mid April...not hardly etched in stone.......not hardly.....

We have all three vaccinations and the new variant is like a cold / flu, (several DR's and Dr friends say everyone will get this unless you are under a rock. Cruising is much safer than going to Walmart where we live. The worst part for us the a 1 hr flight to LA (see N95 mask at work there). Its a personal decision for all, but were three years into this mess, time to move on.

I read that post Kennicot put up and referenced it yesterday on another thread. I have seen other posts where positive tested people praised how things were handled. Looks like it might be port specific and that one was |LA.

From our perspective though we are now left with no choice but to cancel our Jan 29 cruise since NCL will no longer provide the PCR tests on board we need to get home. To get back to Canada you have to pre-register with the border to cross and when you pre-register you must have an electronic copy of a negative PCR test. NCL is offering a vendor at the dock that will do the PCR test at our expense and then you have to wait for results. This does not work when there is a 12 hour driving trip ahead.

Don't you still have 72 hours, from the time you take the test, until you cross the border? Alaska friends near us, transiting Canada going either north or south, usually get the test with a negative result long before the 72 hours expire. For instance, they have been getting the test at Glennallen, waiting for the results for up to about two hours, then head for Beaver Creek, 248 miles driving east. Most seem to clear immigrations by early afternoon at the latest.

Is it this------

"A person's chance at contracting coronavirus is higher on cruise ships because the virus spreads more easily between people spending time in close quarters on the vessels."

Or this-----

"No setting can be immune from this virus" cruise lines are providing highly controlled environments with protocol in place to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus including testing and vaccination levels."

Agreed. Those peoples experience is not only unacceptable, I'm wondering if a civil case could be made for negligence. It leads me to wonder about that so-called and highly touted "healthy sail panel" that NCL and RCL had formed last year to investigate, evaluate, and implement new protocols. Apparently not much was implemented for after the disembarkation. On first glance, it appears that what they had in place was apparently not "stress tested" to find holes in the procedures, so they could put in an overlapping layer of response to to any communication breakdown. Out of sight, out of mind it appears.

I hope that a thorough investigation ensues, and we get a detailed explanation of no only what broke down, but what changes are going to be implemented to ensure that type of situation never happens again. Sadly, I won't hold my breath.

Very informative Aunt Pinkie

The problem is one of timing. The ship used to do the PCR test on board 2 days before disembarkation. This allowed the time to get the results and use the ArriveCAN app to register and send these results to the crossing point. NCL will now no longer do this. Now NCL has a contracted vendor on the docks or close to the docs to do the PCR test. They say that they will fax results to where required. This does not work with ArriveCAN. Also we we have a 12 hour drive home and usually start as soon as we are off the ship. We would now have to wait an hour and a half for results and if negative then register with ArriveCAN and start the drive home. If positive then scramble for somewhere to stay.


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