Vaccine Passports Required for FL Cruises

Hey gang,

I’m scheduled to set sale on December 27th, 21’ out of Miami on Norwegian. As of this moment, Norwegian’s guidelines state you must show proof of full Vaccination and test Negative prior to boarding.

it was my understanding that Governor Desantis signed an executive order saying the cruise lines could not lawfully mandate Vaccine Passports. Has anybody had to deal with this yet and can you tell me for certain if the VPs are required when he has outlawed them for the cruise lines in FL?

TIA,

Phillyfann

29 Answers

..MARYRED I have nothing but respect for the info you post, and look forward to the data.....but my objection was to general statements that are simply not correct...I'm glad NJ has "something"...I don't know what "strongly encouraged" means either, except to me, it means theres a bunch of practitioners of different types who just don't bother. There are entire states comprising tens millions of people who are led by Governors who are close to being pandemic deniers....you know who they are...what motivates them i'll leave to political scientists...There is no national database, and I'm 100% positive there never will be...along with that very popular term "vaccination passport", which for all practical purposes, will never exist either.

I do have to agree that immunization records are not retrievable by anyone, but yes in some states there is a database maintained by the State level Department of Health. Here in NJ the program is called NJIIS, https://njiis.nj.gov/docs/njiisfaqs.pdf .Since 2004 any and all licensed medical practitioners can enter, and are strongly encouraged to so, all verifiable vaccination information from their patients to the platform.

I have no idea what you just said...who is going to access my vaccination record? what database is "someone" going to look in to validate it? what computer am I in? who owns it? If I don't provide all the data, no one knows where to even start.... some do this some do that some screw it (whatever "it" is) up to a fare-thee-well....the American vaccination records are in NO way retrieveable in any organized fashion by ANYBODY....so unless theres an actual "AMERICAN VACCINATION DATABASE" (I just invented that AB...howzit sound?) maintained in such a way as to pool the records from every source that has ever administered shots to anyone who has ever been jabbed, there is NO WAY to magically create one that would be even close to accurate...and thats assuming there was funding for it, and thats assuming every organization of any size, from big corps to mom-n-pop drug stores and every state health dept COOPERATED....so Carnival is going to somehow access the place where I got my shots and get information??? not bloody likely.....

Mebbe....mebbe not....gl2u........

I can only speak for American vaccination records. All healthcare facilities and departments keep records of vaccinations. Some employers are starting to keep them as well.

Vaccination passport is a fabricated term. There are vaccination records, cards, apps, forms etc, issued by gov't health agencies, but they're not passports. It's a shot record. Vaccination records are not recognized by governments to validate identity and affirm a country of residence. (a whole bunch of international agreements and treaties would need modification to do so) So no such thing in the US. Even countries that roll out some electronic immunization record do not use those means as a replacement for their gov't issued identifications. Excuse the rant, but words matter.

Figuring out how your mind works makes my head hurt.....back to bazeboll.....THAT I can understand.....

I already have it worked out for me and my family. I work in a nursing home and I'm able to get testing through there (BINEX or PCR, we do both). If for some reason I can't get testing through there, my mom also works in healthcare and was able to line up an appointment with the hospital she works with for my niece (she's coming with us). They just told us to bring her in when it gets closer to the sail date.

If push comes to shove. we'll stop at the pharmacy and get them done there.

i will have no problem with a vaccine passport, i just am not certain about trying to get a covid test two days before i sail (in november)...i always fly into port the day before...i guess i will be able to work it out

No, I just meant the politically motivated legal maneuvers. In hindsight, you're right, I should have clearly stated that. Sorry for the lack of clarity, but in my defense I thought you knew how my mind works by now.

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