The "Rules"...word for word...all kinds of between the lines possibilities....

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/cruise-ship/what-cdc-is-doing.html

Anybody believe this is no longer a "public health emergency"? ..Or...what are "other considerations"?...hmmm...

Sept 30th.....my money says this will be extended, and for longer than the "voluntary extension" to Oct 31 self imposed by the cruise lines...

We're cutting it close, but I won't cancel.....yet.....we have until 48 hours pre sailing...if THEY cancel, bet the rules will change again??

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Thanks for sharing!Crying

Wait and see

https://www.royalcaribbeangroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Healthy-Sail-Panel_Full-Recommendations_9.21.20_FINAL.pdf

Here's the RCL/NCL Health Panel out brief. This should be the plan submitted to CDC.

That is all that can be done. Everything is wait and see. Gonna be a lengthy process for sure.

Passenger testing between 24hr and 5 days prior to embarkation. And there will be a health screening and secondary testing when entering the the terminal. Understand the first test, but currently, fast response tests are not the most common test and those have been going to symptomatic people first. So fast tests with quick turn need to found wherever you live if you're going to play in the early return. So a very important box to check before leaving home. Many of the "fast tests" are 72 hour turn. However the one's they will use in the terminal are the 15 minute turn. That's what you'll need to find at home.

With all due respect, I wonder just how many folks have actually taken the time to actually read the thing...all 69 pages of it. I just did...(boring afternoon, no sports on TV) took me almost 40 minutes...granted, there are sections re crew and other items that really don't affect paying passengers directly.....but theres enough in there that does, affecting every single aspect of cruising. Before, during and after...To say that it will never be the same as cruising as we know it is probably an understatement. The idea that the cruise lines will adopt and actually enforce these rules is, IMHO, absurd...there are enough problems on most ships WITHOUT covid rules, and I don't care how many PHDs and MDs wrote them. (see the good ol GREENSHEET report)..I was going to list a few that IMHO deserved a closer look...then I realized just how many of them there are...

There is of course, another item these 69 pages leave out...there you are, at sea, with your family/friends...and some one magically contracts the thing. someone you've been in contact with, or the cruise line THINKS you've been in contact with...your cruise just ended, for all practical purposes....or...you and your party are fine, but everyone learns that there are people who have been quarantined because of it...how many?? is it spreading??...are we still having fun???

Those alternatives to cruising may be a poor substitute, but...........

And CRUISELLAMA, "fast tests with as quick turnaround need to be found wherever you live"...sounds lovely, .except, for the vast majority of people, even those willing to do it...well...they just don't exist....just how many hoops do they think people will jump thru to cruise??

These are all suggestions to the CDC and not rules implemented by the cruise lines. First it looks like, if you want to cruise, you must get a test (at your expense) before cruising. Is the test to be administered 5 days before hand or are the results to be returned 5 days before hand? We won't know the "rules" until the CDC allows cruising to resume, if then. The CDC has a bias against the cruise industry (not sure why, but it there).

I enjoy reading everyone's thoughts on the matter. Just remember we don't KNOW what will happen.

Agreed AP....lets carry it to a logical extreme...cruising resumes with some assortment of onerous rules, blessed by somebody...somebody scientific as opposed to political or profit driven..THEN, eventually, there's a vaccine, which will happen sooner or later.....now then, you MUST get a shot....really??? and prove it to the cruise line's satisfaction...suppose you do...does that mean YOU don't need a mask?? YOU can wander the ship and go on excursions and so on??use the tubs and bars and ignore "social distancing?? somehow I don't think so...I can't imagine the bill from the ships MD if you need their services for ANYTHING..let alone an ICU isolation bed...we've had that discussion....so you MUST buy insurance...or else what???

I kind of forced my wife to read the thing...my wife is an intelligent, literate woman...who loves to cruise as much as I do, and her comment was.."wow!!! they expect us to PAY for that??...how is this fun???

Will the cruising public return if they feel burdened with all of this? I don't know. Only time and trail and error will answer all of these questions. We live under the ancient proverb "May you live in interesting times!".

Interesting times indeed. As was pointed out above the real key will be what the CDC says (and hopefully they do not change that 3 or 4 times) . BUT it will also depend on what the ports say and agree to as well unless you plan to cruise to no where. The other interesting thing I am waiting to see which the cruise lines does not really go deep into is how excursions are going to be handled including validating the excursion operators to ensure compliance.

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