I replayed the talking heads announcement a few times.....CCL is awash in problem restarting (they ought to be, they sure borrowed enough)...AND bookings are way ahead of what they were before the shutdown, AND even tho they're reporting a BILLION $ loss for the Q, it doesn't matter, because it seems that all the cruise line stox are gaining, because they anticipate a resumption this summer..

AND most importantly seems that yesterday CCL threatened to pull all its ships out of US ports more or less permanently (which I find hard to believe) unless the CDC lightened up. The CDC is giving then the impression they can sail "conditionally" this summer..

"Carnival threatens CDC" on google will get you all kinds of links to the action......hard to believe the CDC caved...IF they really did...mebbe ABLEMANS opine about enough people with real juice backed the CDC off....hard to believe....

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Not at all surprising. And so the battle begins.

Something is definitely happening behind closed doors. With the vaccine rollout , based on news reports, going as it is, there is a real possibility that cruising may in the future for US ports with US citizens but the rest of the world??

I can see both sides, and both have the same goal: to prevent an outbreak on a ship. Since the Princess outbreaks last year at the beginning of the pandemic, the cruise lines, financially can't afford another outbreak and are trying to do everything in their power to prevent that from happening again.

The CDC also wants to prevent an outbreak and wants people to be able to cruise safely. However, with everything that's been going on with the pandemic, let's face it, cruising has not been a high priority, since it's not really considered essential travel (I get that the jobs on the ship are essential, but it's not like the passengers are travelling for business, like they might be on a plane).

However, I can see why cruising may become more of a priority now: we need it to bring back the economy. Not only are we paying for souvenirs both on the ship and in port, Plus, we're paying taxes and porting fees every time we go into port, which can amount to a huge loss in revenue for the US.

There has to be some sort of common ground that both the CDC and the cruise industry can agree upon. They both want what's best for the industry, so hopefully they can come to an agreement soon.

I am not sure what is driving the CDC backtracking, but I am happy about it. The CDC has been doing CYA concerning their initial policies and guidance for the Covid 19 outbreak. The cruise lines basically let them get away with it. Now that things have turned a corner (I understand it’s not over), the cruise industry is being active in a pushback towards the CDC. The CDC guidelines have been rediculouos and a power play. Let’s hope that the CDC is serious about letting the ships returning soon.

As they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and if the wheel is big enough.........................

No matter to me personally now. Our cruise was cancelled yesterday and I told my wife I will not re-book until I actually see the ships sailing out of port on the evening news.

But I hope you all will be able to sail sooner than we anticipated just yesterday.


If all the majors start moving ops, it might turn the tide. Carnival and NCL were holding on for fair decisions, but its pretty clear the CDC isn't negotiating or operating in good faith. If they all leave, they' loose all control over a major industry. Of course it remains maddening that that have that much authority over a multi-billion $ travel/hospitality industry.

I think it's good timing on the cruise industry's part whether it's CCL or another line. It's time to see what the cruise lines can do. They are being successful in other parts of the world. I see no reason why they can't start up again with the proper protocols in place. And ableman made the same decision we did. We made it quite a bit ago that we aren't going to start cruising again until we see ships out in the Caribbean carrying passengers on their dream vacations! When that happens, sign us up!


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