Anyone think Europe will open to American Cruisers in '21?

I would have to agree that I do not see much happening cruise wise in NA nor do I see the EU skies opening anytime soon to NA visitors flying in.

Even our own gov't requirement for testing before returning home makes it more of a hassle (intentionally).

Yep...pessimistic as hell.....(sorry bout the duplicate post...I think I deleted it....)

I can somewhat see it, if more states don't open up 100%. Texas made a mistake and doing that, and cases will rise. When that happens, that's not helping our case in regards to getting back to cruising anytime soon.

With that said, Biden has made a promise to increase vaccine levels so that anyone who wants a shot will be able to get one. With Pfizer, Moderna, and now Johnson And Johnson getting emergency approval (and with AstraZenica not far behind), that increases the availability of vaccines. Those vaccines will get us back to normal. Right now there is a pent-up demand for the vaccine (the MA sight for booking appointments was so bogged down that it crashed!), so I expect that the more people who get vaccinated and the quicker they get vaccinated, the quicker we will be able to return to normalcy.

My family and I are already 2/3 vaccinated: my mom and I are both healthcare workers and are already fully vaccinated with my Dad due to receive his second vaccine this month. For us, it's now become a waiting game, but we also know that others are not as fortunate.

Yep...."anyone who wants a shot"...is EXACTLY right...Unfortunately, actually researching the numbers show and project that even if the vaccines are easily (define "easily") available to anyone who wants it, the % of Americans who don't trust it and don't plan to ever get it is almost 50%...that number comes from the vast majority of Americans who don't even qualify yet because of their age. Extrapolate THAT when figuring what the future holds....We live in a state where the vaccines have been available to seniors for quite some time...roughly 50% of those eligible have gotten it, and that includes a big push in nursing homes for the obvious reason......and that number hasn't changed much in almost 2 weeks....and THATS for the most "at risk" group.....bout the only group that is way up there in % vaccinated is...wait for it...prisons....

France just announced closure again.

Can’t put a thumbs up on this. So...,

Even if the USA hits 70% vaccinated the rest of the globe will not. As the vaccine is not 100% that you will not get ill, it will still not be safe to go to non vaccinated countries.

Some countries in Europe have announced new lock downs this week. Canada is not doing well with the vaccination, they are going 4 months between injection one and two, I heard that from a Canadian YouTube that I watch. When I got my First Vaccine they gave me the return appointment in 3 weeks for number two

In Los Angeles County we have higher demand for vaccine then we have supplies. My neighbor put her name on a list a month ago and still did not get her appointment with CVS. I got her into my medical provider without having to use the website reservation, when I called for my appointment they let me take her with me for an appointment at the same time.

Maybe 2022 will open up more international travel. I know I'll be staying closer to home in 2021.

Celebrity is offering new sailings from Greece on Apex late summer/fall '21. Greece opening to Americans. Passengers must be vaccinated and have the test prior to entering country. The line is pushing combining air through them (not new), but price is pretty good. Cruise line will arrange fly home tests on the ship prior to disembarkation. We'll see if it happens.

Cyprus also open to American cruisers. So some opportunity in the eastern Med.