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Yes I got that from the body of the article in my link above..so apparently there was no activity today other than the deadline to fike briefs..in short...no dog n pony show, until 6/24...the cynic in me says THATS what it will be...there is a small part of me that retains the slim hope there IS justice...occasionally at least. I especially like the part about their "involvement" for lack of a a more descriptive term, with the USCG...and they acknowledged it!!! wonder if those serving officers (part of the TREASURY DEPT) reported it?

Yesterday was the deadline to file briefs. "The Court ordered the parties to confer and file, by April 22, 2019, agreed dates to appear at a “Revocation Hearing” (to be held by June 24, 2019) at which time the Court will decide whether Carnival violated the terms of its probation and how it should be further punished. The Court suggested that Carnival’s chairman, Micky Arison, and president, Donald Arnold, as well as Holland America executives Stein Kruse, Keith Taylor and retired Rear Admiral Joseph Servidio and Carnival Cruise Line president Christine Duffy attend the June hearing."

Ca't find anything yet re todays hearing...another date is june 24. Anybody find anything?

Guess they haven't gone to paper straws yet.

fascinating stuff...sat and read the grid...as far as cruising goes, its going to rank right up there with that Green sheet report. will it stop anyone, or cause someone to change their plans?..unlikely methinks....

Hate to bring bad news. But according to "Friends of the Earth" cruise line report card, if one is going to make the big switch due slovenly environmental compliance, then we all would be booking Disney. Disney has an "A-" rating.

The next four "good guys" on the list are Cunard, NCL, HAL and Princess. Three of which are Carnival Corp brands. These four are tied with a "C".

Next in line is Celebrity with a "D+" the highest rated RCC brand. As far as Crystal, MSC, Costa, and P&O, forget them, they all flunked with an "F". Ratings are three years ago. https://foe.org/cruise-report-card/

For the most part OPUS, I think you're preaching to the choir. On the other hand....well...I better not go there...suffice it to say I agree with you...I believe the majority of cruisers don't know and don't care...being an "educated consumer" takes work, and what you are blissfully unaware of, well...I guess theres something to be said for that too..

Even without the $40M fine, Carnival brands are the most heavily fined across the industry.

Unfortunately, because of their pricepoint, people will always book with Carnival if they are looking at things from a financial standpoint. I am a diehard RCI Cruiser, however, if RCI was currently doing this, and so blatantly ignoring their environmental impact, I would find a new line to book with.

Also, one must wonder with their track record of careless pollution controls, does that carelessness cross over into their other maintenance and training programs, causing the various disasters that have been widely publicized in the news - Fires aboard Carnival Ecstacy, Tropicale(Ocean Dream), Carnival Splendor, Carnival Triumph, and Star Princess, and the biggest disaster, the Wreck of Costa Concordia?

I'm more than a little curious as to what the upshot of it all will be on the 22nd. When "innocent" 3rd parties get hurt, THEN there'll be all kinds of arm waving...from stockholders who haven't been paying attention (as long as it goes up who cares) to passengers who suddenly find they may not be cruising as scheduled. Im sure there are more than a few who won't care what goes over the side either way.

Corporation should be better policed.

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