Contributor Level: Captain

Hallelujah----I'm getting ahold of HAL and asking them to put us back on their future mailing list.


Hope this isn't a gag. If not this places HAL as one of the most restrictive smoking lines now. Princess is tough but they offer exclusive cigar and cigarette lounges i.e.  "Churchill's".


Apparently due concerns from world cruisers who have already booked because of HAL's lenient smoking policy the  Amsterdam and Prinsendam do not get the updated policy until April and May.



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Contributor Level: Staff Captain

That looks much like the current NCL policy.

Very Good. 

Contributor Level: Captain



Holland America Line will implement a new smoking policy beginning in January 2017. No smoking of any kind will be permitted on any stateroom verandah. Smoking of cigarettes, cigars and pipes is already not permitted in any stateroom. The new policy has been announced to better align with guest wishes and health concerns. The new smoking policy takes effect on all ships on the following dates (as well as any combination cruise spanning these dates):
ms MaasdamJanuary 2, 2017
ms RotterdamJanuary 2, 2017
ms VolendamJanuary 3, 2017
ms NoordamJanuary 4, 2017
ms VeendamJanuary 4, 2017
ms ZuiderdamJanuary 4, 2017
ms Nieuw AmsterdamJanuary 6, 2017
ms EurodamJanuary 7, 2017
ms WesterdamJanuary 7, 2017
ms KoningsdamJanuary 8, 2017
ms ZaandamJanuary 10, 2017
ms OosterdamJanuary 13, 2017
ms AmsterdamApril 26, 2017
ms PrinsendamMay 6, 2017 For guests who wish to smoke, the designated smoking areas for all ships are as follows unless otherwise noted:
Tobacco products (cigarettes, cigars and pipes)
Permitted Outdoors •Sea View (Retreat) Bar/Pool on starboard side. On ms Prinsendam, ms Koningsdam and ms Nieuw Statendam, smoking allowed on the port side. Smoking is never on both sides.•Sun Bar on ms Koningsdam and ms Nieuw Statendam.
•• Sports Deck forward and aft of Crow’s Nest on starboard side on ms Maasdam,
ms Veendam, ms Volendam, ms Zaandam, ms Rotterdam and ms Amsterdam, aft of
Crow’s Nest starboard side.
Permitted Indoors
• Oak Room on ms Noordam only.
• Designated areas for active slot players in Casinos. ms Oosterdam and ms Eurodam
casinos are completely non-smoking, however.
Not Permitted:
Inside all staterooms/suites.
On any stateroom/suite verandahs.
E-cigarettes and Vaping devices
Inside all staterooms/suites.
Designated smoking areas listed above.
Not Permitted:
On any stateroom/suite verandahs.
Other public areas.
Any guest who smokes inside staterooms or verandahs in violation of our policy will be
charged a US$250 cleaning fee per day of violation and will risk being removed from the ship
for repeated violations.



Contributor Level: Captain

Works for me.

Contributor Level: Admiral

So they are finally up to standards of other cruise lines.  Lets see hoe long it takes to re-train the smokers to pay attention to the new rules.

Contributor Level: Captain

I quit smoking over a year ago. and I did not know until recently how bad it could smell. I guess in the case of heavy smokers like myself---we went "Nose-Blind" I'm kinda glad to hear about changes.

Contributor Level: Captain

Great news!  Before other cruise lines implemented similar restrictions, we found our balcony to be almost unusable more than once due to non-stop smoking on a neighboring balcony.

Contributor Level: Staff Captain


Contributor Level: Admiral

Great news!!! Wonder why it took so long for HAL to do what the other lines have been doing?

Contributor Level: Captain


Don't know, my guess was that HAL wasn't going to drop the balcony smoking now that a lot of smokers from other lines have gravitated over to them until they had a chance to put exclusive smoking lounges in all their ships i.e. Princess "Churchill's". I realized that some lines, with real restrictive smoking policies, like Celebrity, don't have them but thought HAL having now built a reputation for the only balcony smoking game in town (except for Costa now) wouldn't be able to put up with the heat. Since they hadn't even put one in their newest ship which was recently launched I suspicioned it would be a long while before they got rid of balcony smoking.   Then out of the blue, they cut it out. I sure would like to be a "bug on the wall" and learn the background of Stein Kruse's rationale for the policy change.  



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