Are you going to dump your cruise line because they charge for an extra entree?

I personally regard the issue as pretty much inconsequential, in other words a non-problem. So I thought it rather silly that someone would suggest that a life-long HAL loyalist find another line just because HAL decided to charge ten bucks for another lobster. LOL

Therefore, the other day I was curious as to how the HAL faithful were taking this news so I looked at one of their forums. About as one might expect, most were not happy, but the topic was drawing more posts that I would have guessed. Some read like this: "Hotel ServiceCharges (HSC)----You are charging me 10, I’ll just remove 10 from the HSC,----- That's not very fair is it? This restaurant has the audacity to charge me extra for ordering extra food, let's punish the waiter".

Truth may be that more are displeased due the mere idea of the new rule, not that they are stuffing their faces with double entrees.

One area of suggestion(s) really got my attention though. Some commentators recommended that HAL guests look at other cruise lines and dump HAL. Of course, most of those had their favorite line so the remainder of their harangue dealt with the perceived virtues of said line. Isn't that what "trolls" do?

However, I was aghast when reading what those who were pushing Oceania, big time, had to say. Now, I've never been on Oceania or NCL but have almost 150 sailing days on Regent, their sister line. So here are posters advocating FDR's Oceania over HAL for charging a couple of bucks for an extra entree, at a time when FDR is making worldly pronouncements like this: "So we’re focusing on price; we’re pushing price higher everywhere we can both in 2019 and 2020,” “While we still have a lot of cabins to fill, the emphasis will be on raising prices across all three brands.” If you will recall, he did the same in September 2018 too.

What gripes me in this regard is that we just finished up last cruise year with two cruises, one on Princess and one on Regent. Princess was 29 days and Regent 22, both trans-oceans. On Princess we had a full suite, an Owners Suite, on the Mariner we had a Concierge Suite. The Owners Suite including balcony was about 1000 square feet, the Concierge Suite was 301 sq. ft including balcony. With the Princess Suite we received "Club Class" dining plus exclusive breakfasts in one of the specialty restaurants.

Shore excursions were about equal, although most Regent shore excursions were included and we paid separately for the Princess excursions. From a food and dining quality standpoint Princess had a significant edge at breakfast and a slight edge at dinner. Obviously, from a cabin standpoint the Princess accommodations were far better. Regent had the edge in on board ambience. The Princess vessel, Pacific Princess, had 670 guests, the Regent Mariner had 700. The Mariner is 48,000 gross tons, the Pacific Princess is 30,300 gross tons.

We paid $530.00 per person per day on Princess which included about $3,000 in excursions and Business Class Air, Seattle to Venice, was also included in the Princess price. We paid our own air on Regent this time. Total we paid $631.00 per day per person on Regent.

By coincidence, I just recently calculated expenses for a 28 day cruise in North America on the Oceania's Regatta in the exact same Owners Suite as we had on the Pacific Princess (Note: The Pacific Princess is the R-3 from the defunct Renaissance Cruises and the Regatta is the R-2). This Oceania cruise would run us $957.00 per day per person. Compare this to what we paid on Princess during a 29 day cruise a few months ago, $530.p.p.--p.d. In addition, the Regatta charges are going to be even more as we get no free internet, plus we get 7 shore exclusions each on the Regatta but any more we take will be an additional charge. We do get a butler if we choose to use the Regatta. But been there done that, the Butler isn't worth it and we must pay for one like it or not on Oceania.

In summary, Oceania will cost us $1000. “more” per day for the same cabin and about the same cruise experience as we had on Princess.

Tags: Holland America Line

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WE are avid Cruisers and LIKE the all inclusive Dining approach! We also like the ALL INCLUSIVE Resorts such as Sandals Resorts that include Premium Cocktails and Wine as well as the Club Levels at The Ritz Carlton and Disney's Grand Floridian. I like not having to reach for may wallet for a change. It's a refreshing feeling!! I would HONESTLY say the thought of paying for an extra entree might prompt us to reconsider the Vacation we would choose. We have reached the 3 Star Mariner Level with Holland America in a relatively short period of time and have chosen this Cruise Line as a favorite because we are Diners and appreciate their QUALITY Dining Experience. I feel charging extra for additional food is petty and may potentially alter our feelings and future experiences with the Holland America Cruise Line!!

WE are avid Cruisers and LIKE the all inclusive Dining approach! We also like the ALL INCLUSIVE Resorts such as Sandals that include Premium Cocktails and Wine as well as the Club Levels at The Ritz Carlton and Disney's Grand Floridian. I would HONESTLY say the thought of paying for an extra entree might prompt us to reconsider the Vacation we would choose. We have reached the 3 Star Mariner Level with Holland America in a relatively short period of time and have chosen this Cruise Line as a favorite because we are Diners and appreciate their QUALITY Dining Experience. I feel charging extra for additional food is petty and would potentially alter our feelings and future experiences with the Holland America Cruise Line!!

“Are you going to dump your cruise line because they charge for an extra entree?”

No.

I'm loyal to HAL and am close to being 4-stars...the extra charge is not a concern at all. Why anyone would switch cruise lines over this is beyond me!

I don't have a horse in this race, but it seems to me that the ones that ask for a 2nd entree would be less likely to be wasteful.

LAZYBOY..got an email notification you posted. with a portion of it but its not here. nother glitch. looked like you were one of the few who actually changed cruise plans because of that stupid 2nd entrée charge. would love to read it.

I might not dump a cruise line but I would give it serious consideration. The charge for an extra entree may just be the start. What would be the next fee to added? They will try one and then move on with the next experiment.

Take Carnival , for example, first they take away the chocolates on the bed then they no longer invite Gold card members to a free drinks hours.

The point is, once started then what?

I have never asked for a 2nd entre, so it makes no difference.

Luvit KENN, donchu just luvit (or hate it) when you outthink their "agendas" and assorted bs without even trying? You have to give them credit for inventiveness, no? well....no.....

Reading BDRebels exchanges with Princess, reminded me of my corkscrew battles long ago.

As most of you know, I am a wino. Wife got everything unpacked and we were finally relaxing in our Princess cabin. I dug out one of my bottles of red; looked around for the usual cabin corkscrew, none. Looked through my stuff, I forgot to pack one. Called cabin service and ordered one. No can do. Why not? We don't put them in cabins since children could get hurt. No kids here, send one up. No can do. Well, how in the he--- do I get my wine open? We will send somebody up to open it for you. That's crazy, look, I'll buy a corkscrew from you from cabin service. No can do.

So, I sat there for a few minutes, wow, do I have to wait until the next port to get a corkscrew? Maybe the neighbors have one. As it was we had just sailed. So the ship's stores just opened. I went down to the gift shop, sure enough, they and a great assortment of corkscrews and all were reasonably priced. End of problem.

A bit later, a knock on the door. A two or three striper was there. He said "I understand you have a problem can I help?" I said, not anymore, I'm a happy camper now. He wanted to talk more about it. I said, "look, just have the staff try telling the truth for a change." "In this case, say: We don't furnish corkscrews in our cabins anymore, but our gift shop has a fine selection, in the meantime I'll get somebody right up there to open your bottle." Don't make up fibs, like kids might screw one into their eyeball socket or something, you don't even have to be truthful in that guests rip them off when they disembark, that is why you quit furnishing them." Whew.

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