Move along now folks, nothing to see here, or so says the cruise line.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/travel/fl-reg-cruise-ship-armonia-sets-sail-20180411-story.html

  This collision (allision) is close to the one Celebrity had with their Infinity in Ketchikan that I posted about some time back, except it was the Infinity stern not the bow and wind had a lot to do with it. Here are a few excerpts from the NTSB report concerning Celebrity Cruises' Infinity accident at Ketchikan, plus the link to the NTSB investigation: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/MAB1736.pdf  

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so this begs the question ... who was minding the store while the driver was having a nap

He thought the restaurant had a drive through ?

Interesting read, thanks Kennicott

Thanks for that!  I laughed hard!

Obviously no curbside service for awhile.

 

Sure difficult to get further info on this accident. Apparently, slightly more than 100 feet of the pier has been rendered unusable, hence, Oasis class ships can not dock there, meaning the Allure of the Seas is out. Apparently, they don't like to tender with that many guests.

 

Only bit of news I can find is this----"No damage has been detected to the western or the central part of the port, which can accommodate and allows for the arrival of smaller cruise ships. However, the east side of the port has suffered some 35 meters of destruction. This will limit the port’s ability to receiving only smaller vessels. Collectively, the entire port counts on some 205 meters of dockable space. The impact is substantial, as it is, and cruise ship cancellations are being confirmed. RCI’s Allure of the Seas was scheduled to arrive in Roatan for the first time on May 10. For the remainder of the season, all of the cruise ship’s scheduled visits to Roatan have been canceled. The ship will now have either a sea day or visit another cruise port in the Western Caribbean. Repairs to the pier that was damaged when hit by a cruise ship earlier this week may exceed $10 million. The cleaning and reconstruction efforts have yet to begin. The port is waiting on international evaluators to provide an assessment and diagnosis so they can move forward. Once damages are assessed, the works of debris removal and reconstruction of the damaged structures will begin. This reconstruction could take approximately three months to complete. This estimate is subject to change by the authorities involved, but so far these authorities have fully collaborated." 

 

Reason I'm interested in the port damage is that my brother-in-law has been building huge bridges and piers for over 60 years. The ten million estimate must be way high, but I can't get his opinion until I am able to find pictures, preferably, looking down, of the east end of the pier since damaged. I have some good "before" shots. 

 

Due lack of technical infrastructure in these third world nations it is highly doubtful there will be much in the way of an accident investigation into this incident. Even if there is, it will not be nearly as comprehensive and thorough as those accomplished by the US NTSB. To further complicate matters, ports like these are deeply beholding to the cruise lines for even scheduling them as ports of call, since almost every Latin American country is on the countries to avoid traveling too list by the US State Department.

 

For the layperson, estimates as to factors or contributing factors will probably only be gleaned from the educated guesses of persons with expertise in these areas. For instance, the most logical I've read so far is from Chengkp75, it is my understanding this individual has considerable experience and knowledge on large vessels, particularly from the bridge. Following is one of his latest posts, however he is apparently on the sea right now and unable to download the critical videos of the MSC Armonia actually moving toward the pier and striking it. I am unable to determine if the two bow thrusters were operating at all on approach, it looks to me like they were not. However, they clearly are functioning immediately after impact as the bridge attempts to pull the vessel clear of the carnage. I'm curious to his thoughts on this, if indeed they were not functioning, perhaps he will opine that the delayed bow thruster action was the same reason behind his guess for the pods to fail to reverse i.e.---"I suspect it was a failure of the bridge control system, or even a failure when transferring control of the pods between the seagoing controls (engine telegraph and helm) to the docking controls (joysticks), or even an error in selecting which set of controls was placed "in command" (port wing, stbd wing, center console)"   

"As I've posted on about 4 other threads on this topic, my belief is that the ship has to approach the pier perpendicularly due to channel configuration, it then stops, swings 90*, and then moves sideways to the dock. I believe that when approaching the dock perpendicularly, the azipods failed to reverse (swing around 180*) to provide braking thrust, so the ship continued towards the dock. The Captain dropped at least on anchor to try to slow the ship down, knowing that running over the anchor can cause damage to the hull. I can't stream video here onboard, but others have reported that the thrusters were working hard, but tunnel thrusters like the Armonia has at the bow lose about 90% of effectiveness when the vessel speed is above 3-4 knots, so they would be trying but not doing much. Since the apparent failure affected both separate azimuthing systems on the pods, I suspect it was a failure of the bridge control system, or even a failure when transferring control of the pods between the seagoing controls (engine telegraph and helm) to the docking controls (joysticks), or even an error in selecting which set of controls was placed "in command" (port wing, stbd wing, center console)." Chengkp75

 

Thanks for the update:  I think all those on bigger ships head to Roatan need to check with their cruise line to see if the itinerary has been affected.

Chengkp75's posts on CC are always informative.  I hadn't seen this particular information.  Thanks for posting, Kennicott.

 

Thanks for the info.

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