DVCruise
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Cruise Ships Colliding?

With the sad news about recent collisions with US navy ships, do you find it probable or even possible that cruise ships could have these types of accidents?

I find it almost impossible to comprehend how these accidents happen ...

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BDRebel
Contributor Level: Captain

The latest theory is that the computer/navigation/engine controls were hacked. It seems farfetched on the surface, but the same thing happening to three ships based at the same port adds a bit of credence to it. Personally, I think it is down to poor training of the bridge crew.

I would like to hope that it would not happen on a cruise ship.

Bubba54
Contributor Level: Captain

It should be next to impossible with all the current technology today. However, anything is possible and will usually boil down to human error.

JCOAKML
Contributor Level: Captain

I have a theory that I don't think is far fetched although I might get blasted by the other former sailors here. 

 

In the 1960's there were several infamous US Navy accidents traced back to drug use.  The Navy started clamping down on drug use but it still goes on.  Several people were busted in my squadron when I was in.  And there are plenty of articles out there about drug use in the military today.  My theory is sailors impaired by drugs had a part in these latest two accidents. 

 

Having said that I think an overwhelming majority of our men and women are good hard working service members and trying their best.  It don't think everyone in uniform is a drug fiend.  But it only takes one bad apple to mess things up. 

AuntPinkie
Contributor Level: Captain

I certainly hope it does NOT happen.  After being on the bridge of a ship (behind the scenes tour) and seeing all the gadgets in duplicate (some in triplicate) plus a human look out, it seem unlikely.  But those ships cannot move quickly and if a collision was near it would be hard to avoid. With more and bigger ships the odds are greater.  The possibility, won't stop me from cruising.

BonMike
Contributor Level: Captain

i guess anything is possible, but it's pretty doubtful so I don't think about the possibility before, during or after my cruise.

coasterking
Contributor Level: Cruise Director

When I was in the Navy on a destroyer we hit a fishing trawler right in the area of the Fitzgerald.  In my time the officers had an attitude.  They were out of annapolis and they were gods while an enlisted man was a dummy.  Our radarman(enlisted man) told the watch officer we were near a contact.  The watch officer had to look for himself before deciding what to do, then we hit.  Taxpayers had to replace the boat.  I also took a tour of the Conquest and with all the electronics on the bridge I don't see how a ship can collide, of course the officers on cruise ships are not annapolis military

ToddTheCruiser
Contributor Level: Staff Captain

Also folks.  Remember where these incidents happened.  Extremely busy and crowded navigational waterways.. Also the conditions of all the ships are not the same as in training and technology..

coasterking
Contributor Level: Cruise Director

When we arrived in port, they radioed us if we want a pilot to bring us in.  Our captain always said yes, that way if something happened the monkey was on the pilots back.  I don't know if the modern naval captains uses pilots or not.  All cruise ships I was on I see pilots bring the ship in and out of port.

JCOAKML
Contributor Level: Captain

I asked the captain when I did the Inspiration tour about pilots and he said it was required by law that cruise ships use them.  The main question was if a cruise ship captain is familiar with a port can he go in him/her self.  Answer is no, always have to have a pilot for a cruise ship. 

 

Not sure about military ships.

Johngold
Moderator
Contributor Level: Captain

I see that the area where the incident took place is a very busy area. Very crowded. I have been in areas on the west coast on leisure vessels and sometimes the momentum and currents cause the  bump. Now with cruise ships and large naval vessels, they are big and cumbersome at times. Look at the collisions in Bermuda during the season.

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