Another Behemoth hits the Seas

by now everyone is aware Carnival will put into service the VISTA, in 2016.   4ooo+ pax, yada,yada,yada......

8 Answers

I've also heard about a new monster ship for Disney... Any one else heard that?

More kids.

No casino.

Yeah, I don't think so !!!

I have heard about the Carnival ship, nothing on Disney. Large ships appear to be the future. I will continue on the small to mispdsize ships as long as they are in service.

It seems that the ships are getting bigger and bigger. Is this progress? Sometimes smaller is better. These big ships can't get into the smaller ports.

Well, the new Viking ocean ships are going the other way - smaller. Only 900 passengers. If it does well, maybe we'll get some more balance? Nervous

I have followed the Viking ship program for a bit now, these will be great European alternative to the big ships. Mind you, they will be pricey.

I will stay with the smaller ships for now, though we may try a short family cruise in a few years on a monster, just to see how it is.

Bigger ships have smaller ratios of officers to passengers saving the cruise lies $$ on the high paid staff. The new smaller ships are for the Boutique cruise lines, not the mass market.

I prefer a ship that does not have the water park and all of that kind of stuff, Less kids on the smaller ships. Kids want the floating amusement park, not a Cruise ship. I will still try one of the Oasis class ships just to try it some time.

Yea, there are about 23 new cruise vessels scheduled out of ship yards over the next three years, 16 of which are over 125,000 gross tons. WOW! But, I haven't seen an announcement from Disney regarding any new orders since the Fantasy came out in 2012.

RCI has four of these new ones--two more of the "SS Gigantics" at 5400 passengers per and the other two a little over 4100 each. MSC is next with three, one of which carries 4500 and the other two just slightly smaller. Norwegian has two giants coming at 4200 passengers each. Smallest is Seabourne at only 450. The three for Viking are listed at 928 guests each.

Many say, "we look at the number of passengers, not the other numbers", like gross tonnage. Okay, but I've seen lines with ships the approx same tonnage, one of which will then stuff almost twice the number of passengers in as the other.

What I prefer doing is looking at the passenger to crew ratios. (The number of passengers divided by the number of crew, lower berth) All have one authentic captain, so 1 captain to 5000 versus 1 captain to 500 doesn't say much. But the all over ratio really does. For instance: The Seabourne Odessey is 1.3, The Seven Seas Voyager is 1.65, The Oasis of the Seas 2.4 and the Celebrity Eclipse 2.3.

And then factor in the passenger to space ratio---(Gross tonnage divided by the number of passengers (lower birth only). Seabourne Odyssey 71.1, SevenSeas Voyager 59.8, The Oasis of the Seas 41.6, Celebrity Eclipse 42.7 and the Carnival Glory 37.0.

If nothing else this gives one an idea how much elbow room is available plus the amount of attention a guest can expect to receive from available staff.


* is not a booking agent or travel agency, and does not charge any service fees to users of our site. Our partners (travel agencies and cruise lines) provide prices, which we list for our users' convenience. does not guarantee any specific rates or prices. While prices are updated daily, please check with the booking site for the exact amount. is not responsible for content on external web sites.

Back to Top